Waldram Park Road Closed 25/11/2017 [Now Reopened. Police appealing for witnesses]

Waldram Park Road is closed following a hit and run accident during the night, during which someone was sadly killed, All traffic including the 185 and 122 is being diverted.

Although TFL have the incorrect location of the accident there are showing the 122 and 185 are diverted as follows:
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See Andy’s post below re diversion route for other traffic, and pedestrians

The pavement along the South Circ is also closed to pedestrians, from Sunderland Road to the Co-op.

Vehicular traffic is being diverted along Sunderland Road, South Road and Westbourne Drive.

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I That’s awful news that a someone was killed in a collision. :slightly_frowning_face:

Yesterday I got caught up in a traffic jam in Ladywell due to a traffic collision, and there was a huge snarl up in Catford due to a lorry broken down on the gyratory causing traffic to back up on the South Circular for most of the day. There was also a serious 3 vehicle crash in Sydenham yesterday near the station.
It was not a good day to be out driving.
Seems like a lot of traffic accidents to me?

It looked like the pavement on the opposite side was open.

Just been there for my second trip of the morning to the Co-op. Defo closed to pedestrians - unless you live within the cordoned-off area, I suppose.

UPDATE TO 122 / 185 DIVERSION: It seems the bus diversion routes have changed as I’ve just seen both a 122 and 185 on Sunderland Road going towards the South Circular. and TFL have removed any mention of diversions for either route on their website.

At a guess they’re now following the main traffic diversion route Sunderland Rd, South Rd, Westbourne Drive.

Sorry. Just been past again and absolutely closed. Pedestrians are being sent up Sunderland Rd.

Wouldn’t it be quicker for pedestrians to be sent back along the Sunderland Rd part of the South Circular to the Railway Tavern and then along Rockbourne Rd and Stanstead Rd which will bring them out by the Co-Op? It is certainly a less hilly route!

I thought the same but assume the police know something we don’t

You can indeed go the Rockbourne Road route to the Co-Op.

Chris - can you explain why you think it was a hit and run accident? Police at the scene and other reports aren’t saying that. Thanks.

Yes, police told me Is was a pedestrian hit by a lorry. The lorry is still there.

Hi Dave,

I found the information on the following website when I was trying to find out why I had been woken up at 5am this morning by all the traffic on Sunderland Rd!

https://uknip.co.uk/2017/11/police-launch-failed-to-stop-probe-after-man-is-killed-in-london/

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Anyone know if the road is open again?

Yes it is.

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Originally shared by @AlexK:

It’s very sad that someone has died so I should probably just note my sympathies and leave it there.

So I’m sorry if this comes across as insensitive, but I can’t understand why, in this day-and-age, with all the technology out there, the police don’t have a drone equipped with an ultra high definition camera that could quickly scan accident sites so that they don’t have to close busy roads and motorways for many hours. Clearly, these closures can cause delays to emergency vehicles etc, which could be the difference between life and death. Obvioulsy, in this particlar scenario they would have needed to cordon-off the vehicle and forensics tent but with 2 or 3 officers controlling passing traffic as the road is wide enough to allow traffic to pass at say 20mph and pedestrians to use one side of the road?

There was a nasty road traffic accident outside my house a few years ago and the police closed the road for several hours to photograph and take evidence. It was a thorough and painstaking process, and the level of detail they went to I can’t imagine being replicated by a drone…

I hate to hijack this tragic story to make my Meldrewesque point.

In my ignorance I don’t know what the police are doing in the 14 hours between closing the road off and reopening it but I’d be totally amazed if technological advances made since the advent of a tripod-mounted camera and a long tape measure can’t replace a huge part of what actually needs to be done at an accident site.

The drone, as a vehicle, is only a small part of the solution. It would be set to methodically cover a given area, but it would be fitted with a sophisticated camera and gadgetry which would capture high definition images and other data that could be processed by computer program and used both at the scene afterwards to produce super accurate scaled and enhanced 3D views and images of the whole site for the necessary thorough review and examination from every angle to be carried out elsewhere. This suggested use of technology that must be out there would save lives. It would save millions in costs to businesses across the country. It would save on people being made late for appointments, family reunions, weddings, funerals, holiday flights, etc, etc, etc. The police and other road authorities spend loadsa money on mobile ANPR cameras and infrastructure to take money from motorists so I don’t see why they can’t invest in something like this.