Yup. If someone’s going to threaten me with a 20 ton bus then I think it’s justified. Not only that, but think of the safety of the passengers too, let alone pedestrians or oncoming motorists. Actions have consequences. That’s why we have law, that’s why the police encourage reporting - to improve road safety for everyone…
I wouldn’t alert store staff in the shoplifting example. Not because I am blase about theft but because I think it would be a waste of time. This is because when I worked for sainsburys, we were not allowed to use the word of another shopper as evidence that a shopper was potentially shoplifting. To be able to take forward an allegation of shoplifting, a member of staff or a store guard had to see the person conceal the item, then have eyes on them all the way out of the store, so it was clear that they had taken the item, still had it with them, had bypassed the tills and it was clear they were not intending to pay.
But in the other two examples yes I would act, if I were able to be sure that what o was seeing was a potential crime. Although actually thinking about it, I doubt the police would turn out for the burglary so maybe just the conspiracy example!
Wait , there are cyclists capable of doing 30 mph?
(Crawls away into corner feeling embarrassed about ever having called herself a cyclist!)
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This topic is now in slow mode in the hope the discussion can continue thoughtfully and closer to the original topic.
What was a 185 doing outside FH Pools in the first place? It must either have been diverted away from its normal route or was lost!
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Definitely a 185. No idea if he was lost or on diversion. 27th July last year.
He got alongside me trying to overtake, nowhere to go because there’s a car in front of me, had to then do an emergency stop because of the oncoming traffic.
It’s a wide angle camera but you can see I’m maybe in a 4-5 ft gap between the bus and the kerb so 2 1/2 ft each side of the bike. Absolute minimum should be 4.5 ft and that’s not even taking into account that he’s speeding to overtake on the outside of a left hand turn pulling into a busy shopping street with pedestrians crossing to get to the pools, and oncoming traffic. Not a good look for a professional driver.
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Well he probably isn’t now.
I imagine he’s not going to resign as he doesn’t think he’s done anything wrong. I guess it’s up to Arriva if they want to vote him out of the driving seat.
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He’s taken full responsibility and now he’s getting on with the job of taking us all for a ride.
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What did the court decide?
Well… I didn’t have time to stay to the end… I was told to call Witness Services to enquire about the verdict. They told me to call Victim Support. And they told me I had to ask the Police. So I’ve emailed them, but given the holiday weekend it might take some time.
Not sure if there’s any way to look this up in the public record somehow?
Megan smiling and waving at you would certainly stop you in your tracks
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Also a ridiculous solution. My car is fitted with the auto speed notification software, but if I drive past a street sign that has limits between certain times it will pick the lowest, if I go past a side street with a speed sign facing my road it will drop, if I go between two lorries it will assume I’m in a residential area and drop.
It is fine because I am in control, but imagine if you are doing 70 and suddenly you lose power until you are doing 30
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From the detail in the story it appears that the car won’t automatically reduce power:
“After lobbying from car manufacturers, the EU softened initial plans to make the more stringent ISA system, which cuts engine power once the speed limit has been reached, mandatory. Such a system, which can be overridden for a brief time by a driver pushing hard on the accelerator, has been shown to reduce road deaths by up to 20 per cent.”
Of course that is only slightly mitigating the issues caused by the changes. If I’m doing 70 and I’m briefly allowed to hit the accelerator when it thinks the limit is 30 it will eventually slow down to a crawl on the motorway
Do you assume that the system will read the speed limit sign incorrectly or are you suggesting that, if and where it exists, a 30 mph limit on motorways doesn’t need following?
If I understand it correctly, car manufacturers are now being giving the option to only implement an advisory system (which can be ignored by the driver). Let’s have a guess which one most of them will go for.
I am talking about the frequent occasions when the speed limiter is wrong. These situations are very common and a limiter would be dangerous.
You are correct the speed limiter can be advisory on the car manufacturers decision, but for European cars they will be compulsory. If the UK market cars are euro cars with the compulsory bit switched off there is an obvious gap that encourages EU drivers to use the same switch off. The EU won’t like that so they will be compulsory with no software disabling allowed OR you might not be allowed to drive your car into the EU
Besides, I’m not sure the point of an advisory speed indicator - I’ve got one - it’s called a speedo.
Of course in some ways this doesn’t worry me, my car doesn’t have the speed limiter and the next car I buy might well be self drive anyway (won’t be getting a new one for 3-4 years) and they will be limited