Devonshire, Tyson, Ewelme Traffic Volume

Yes this covers FH ward. LBL has a Healthy Neighbourhoods programme - these programmes are funded by TFL primarily, through Local Implementation Plan/LIP bids, which are currently paused due to TFL’s financial position. The area in discussion here is the Honor Oak ‘Healthy Neighbourhood cell’ https://lewisham.gov.uk/myservices/roads-and-transport/our-traffic-reduction-programme-healthy-neighbourhoods.

Assessments on prioritisation of Healthy Neighbourhoods focus on assessing personal injury and collisions, air quality, levels of obesity and deprivation, and appetite in the community. @SophieDavis has been working hard to organise supporters of a Healthy Neighbourhood in Honor Oak and help ensure their voices are heard. However, local support for these schemes is just one of the factors assessed. And on that note, can the admins please act and stop @DevonishForester from misrepresenting my words.

Sophie can speak to this issue better than I can - as she can for most issues to be honest!

Wouldn’t it be better to organise public consultations to enable all views to be heard, rather than organising just the supporters?

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I just checked and there doesnt appear to be an ‘Honor Oak’ cell on the map, do you mean the Forest Hill cell?

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Oops my bad, that yellow on yellow is very hard to read!

There will be a public consultation on any Healthy Neighbourhood.

But if you’re a local councillor who thinks part of ward would benefit from Healthy Neighbourhood schemes, then its your imperative to campaign for it. In my opinion.

Isn’t it a conflict of interests for you to organise the consultation whilst also organising activists from one side to “ensure their voices are heard”

How will residents be able to trust the consultation?

Oh no, those pesky activists again, campaigning for safer streets and healthy neighbourhoods. Why don’t we invite some people who want to campaign for speeding down residential streets, breathing more pollution and generally in favour of making neighbourhoods more unhealthy. Feel free to join the consultation. Everyone welcome.

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I think I’ve addressed that reductionist rhetoric and those straw man arguments before, the last few times you used them. I’m not going to repeat myself by responding to them.

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You may not want to do that, the result may go against what you feel is right.

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The traffic throughput limit has been reached this afternoon, traffic was all the back all the way from the south circular, the whole length of woodcoombe cresecent to Ewelme Road. And all the way along Devonshire Road to the bottom Ewelme Road, according to google that’s 600m of standing traffic.

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Very few narrow residential roads (in a supposed conservation area) have an unregulated junction with a major commercial / commuting route.

I would hope that the moderators would address your attack on me rather than on something I have written. Please let me know where the misrepresentation is.

Total chaos out there tonight, backed up to the top of Ewelme that’s about 1km of standing traffic.

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Hence the one-way system in the opposite direction. They need to use Devonshire Road to cut-through to the south circular and they won’t be able to if it was only in the other direction. It’s the simplest and quickest solution to stop this traffic.

This is the current traffic in Devonshire road. It is like this every evening.

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Personally i dont think one-way system is the right way to go, it will just encourage the north bound rat-runs unless it’s in combination with a number of other measures, but it would at least stop the south-bound rat-runs. I am glad that some agrees that something needs to be done about it though.

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Was rather bad tonight for sure, and seemed to stay bad for a lot longer than usual. Even worse than the traffic is the amount of road rage that goes on, people getting out of cars to shout and swear at each other, its not great!

Here’s a quick clip of what it looked like, absolute standstill:

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Very similar view down Ewelme this evening too, total standstill, I took a video but it was like a photo as nothing moved for about 5 minutes.

Really busy this evening and seemed to start much earlier too, I took this at about 16:30 and the traffic
was backed right up to Ewelme Road.

On a positive all the unneccessary lung busted pollution made for a stunning sunset.

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Lovely sound of persistent car horns and drivers screaming at each other. How lovely for us residents.

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