I can’t speak for the mods, but in my past experience, you can get a feel for a thread and act accordingly. I think it’s fair to say they have acted on the side of caution, but in the past moderators have been accused of being too slow to act so now act more proactively where they think it’s necessary.
Of course you don’t know what you don’t know where the thread would end, but sometimes you might just look at it and think it’s not going to get better in terms of adding great debate, and I suspect that is where they were at, which I’d tend to agreee with.
…and sometimes, like most people, they just want to get on with enjoyable things in life!
There wasn’t anything abusive or personal. But the thread was going in circles and we’ve seen ones like that become argumentative in the past so to save our time, we preempted it to save ourselves time and hassle in what’s a busy week for us all.
With respect, I’ve now spent more time today than I really want to on this thread and I’ve got better things to do.
@AndyS and @Michael can you both stop please. I appreciate and value both of you. Can you both agree to disagree please. Thank you XOXO for both and an extra kiss for both xx I don’t even want to read the thread because I don’t want to be involved in something that may effect a friendly relationship I have.
@Michael@AndyS sorry for speaking my mind, you both know I always do. Can this convo be forgotten xx and just come to a sensible conclusion of forget it if not possible, makes sense x
The original topic was open for 4 days - there was plenty of time for people to contribute, so I’m sorry if anyone felt they had missed the opportunity to comment.
I feel I’m really humouring you here @AndyS, by spending time trying to again explain again why the topic was closed, but if you go back and read the original post on “Plea from a driver” it really didn’t invite the later comments and discussion that followed. Several people commented on the thread about the deteriorating nature of the responses:
Some complained there was no warning of the closure, but really it’s all in the comments from other members, some of which I’ve quoted above. And my own judgement was that after some good comments, things start to move on and the original post was at risk of getting brow-beaten by repetitive arguments from a few who were moving fairly wide of the actual posted topic, and well away from anything local or relevant to the actual ‘plea from a driver’.
I’d really like everyone to have more of an equal voice here, and I think someone else posted how they came here as they hoped it was a friendlier and more welcoming space than other forums, While a bit of a bun fight or joking around all par for the course, the “Plea from a driver” topic is not a good example of this and despite some constructive and very well meaning posts, showed no sign of improvement.
Is it not time to close this topic? Everything useful has been said.
Moderation is a thankless task and is never right for everybody, but we know what bad moderation looks like after years of it on various SE23 forums. It is good that people are on the look out for bad moderation and that we are able to challenge moderators, but it shouldn’t need to escalate every time a thread is closed.
What a shame my would-be effort to defuse the car vs bike saga was shot down before I could even start. Some of us aren’t here all day every day so the fact you’re closing it down after four days claiming there was plenty of opportunity kind of sticks in the craw.
But fine. That’s it, I’ve nothing else to say on this. Apart from the fact I’m pretty annoyed you’re making me out to be the culprit here.
I would add that the critique is seeing that thread as a conflict between two sides. I think a count of contributors would show they were BOTH drivers and riders and were inherently looking for bringing both aspects together.
I, for one, didn’t find the comments of those mostly dedicated to one aspect or the other discourteous and we have to live or die with the consequences. I think it clear that not all participnts thought it tiresome or circular.
But it is done. We are bound to accept Mods decisions and thankful we allowed some feedback. I hope they find it useful.
Yes. It’s a little known fact and although his sized belied it Biggie was a diehard cyclist but he refused to wear hi- Viz or put lights on his bike when he cycled at night (he found cycling very therapeutic and come up with some of his most famous raps when in the saddle).
2Pac was enraged at his thoughtlessness, I believe his exact words to Biggie was ’ word up homie light up or be lit up’ and we all know the rest.
“Riders will experience a slow cruise around the city streets on Bikes equipped with LED Lights as we travel to one of our select destinations such as Discovery Green, Third Ward, Midtown or The Museum District. The music playlist will be provided by the Guide as we bike around town.”
