What else does Forest Hill need? [2016]

A fairly concise explanation of lease premiums:

Outside of the realms of tax, the lease premium is a device for changing the profile of the cashflow from a lease. If an investment company needs to invest in a new property, or refurbishing an existing property, it may decide to charge a lease premium in order to get an up front lump sum return on its investment. This would often be reflected in a lower passing rent under the lease than an open market rent for the property.

If an existing lease is assigned to a new tenant, then a premium may be charged by the old tenant to the new tenant. This would reflect some special value that the lease or property had, e.g. a low rent, or specialised fittings.

There can also be a reverse premium, where the tenant receives a lump sum. This might be an inducement to pay a higher rent, or to fund works in the property.

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Just to be clear - It’s the existing tenants that are asking for premiums and not the landlords.

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So the New From The Forest (cant remember the new name) are asking for a lot of money having been open for a few days?

Exactly, it’s bonkers!

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Ah! That makes much more sense!
Well it doesn’t in the context of From the Forest but the idea makes sense now - ta!

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Is this the retail equivalent of flipping a property? Take it on, superficially gussie it up and hike the price for the next taker?

I blame Brexit. :smiling_imp:

My suggestion was not based on a specific building, but in general to the thread.

What;s wrong with Nandos out of interest? I’m all for independent places, but also like a few chains too, this for me happens to be one of them.
That’s you and @Pauline not using it when it opens then lol

My thoughts exactly mate, and drives my hope that a few big names will come in to help attract people to parts they don’t already explore.

Just not my thing although I realise they are quite popular - I don’t really have any objection to them as long as I don’t have to eat there. I like chicken to have some structure to it - it was all mushy and yet rubbery at the same time and accompanied by some tasteless slop masquerading as sauce Mind you I only went once but it felt like the staff had been recruited from wrong end of the bell curve as they couldn’t cope with anything slightly off piste.
I admit I am a bit fussy about food - but maybe I should give them another go.

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Oi! Dont you start :grin:

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I quite like Nandos. One of the better quality large chains IMO.

But I think any large chain setting up in Forest Hill is going to have a footfall issue. Our centre is very small and so not necessarily suited to big chain businesses looking to fill up large spaces. I suspect it’s the same reason Wetherspoon’s wants to offload the Capitol (and why they’re struggling for a buyer). Nando’s (and similar) tend to set up in larger centres - our nearest are Catford, Beckenham, Lewisham, Camberwell all of which have many more commercial units.

Which is possibly why we lost McDonalds (dont quote me on this as they may have had other reasons for closing).

I wouldn’t, if I were you. I would, if I were me, which I am. If you want chicken and chips and coleslaw and white wine - especially before or after a movie - then great. We like Nandos. Doesn’t sound as though you’ll derive much pleasure from giving it a second chance, though. Chacun à son gout. That is all.

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I would normally always give everything two goes before I add them to the list of things to avoid - maybe three but it was so awful I have never felt the need to go back. Maybe one day…
If we were to have a new food place I would love a Vietnamese.

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Now you’re talking!

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Nandos here, and Nandos in South Africa (where it originates) is very different. I find it overcooked here to satisfy health and safety. Nowt wrong with that but then there is cooked and there is COOKED! :scream:

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I think something like “H&M” would go down well where “Home Accessories” is especially as M&Co will become “Superdrug” soon, but don’t think FH has enough footfall sadly :frowning:

And let’s not forget the asking premium for a 3 year lease is :rofl::rofl: £400k!

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What in the name of all that is holy is a Vietnamese baguette?

It’s also known as Bánh mì.

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