Aetex as was?
https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/index.php?title=Cellular_Clothing_Co&redirect=no
Yes indeed - it’s Aertex , logo/patent mentioned in the ad.
Thanks for posting these @ThorNogson
I note with great interest Mrs J Stuck, the ladies outfitters. My Great Grandaunt was a seamstress living in Waldenshaw Road at the time, working for a local ladies outfitters. I wonder if this was the one.
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That’s a great picture - it’s there any more information on it, any idea when it was taken?
3 posts were split to a new topic Posts moved from “What does this say, the pavement shops…” to prevent going off topic to an old argument not really relevant here.
I think 1920’s. From Kelly’s Directories there doesn’t appear to have been a fishmongers on that stretch on the right until at least 1916 ish.
The shop on the left is I think John Aggett, watchmaker, watch repairer and jeweller. He is shown at that address as far back as 1891 (at 1 The Facade, Pavement which I think later became 28 Perry Vale) so if he has been established 35 yrs in the photo it sort of tallies with the photo being 1925 ish.
On the far corner, the one occupied by The Pantry today, it appears to be a Corral & Co office. But we know FW Allen was still trading there in 1918, so assume it changed to Corrals sometime after that and dates the photo later too.
There’s a tram in Waldram Park Road, but I’m not sure that helps with dates.
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John Aggett watchmaker,watch repairer and jeweller was at 10 Perry Vale until 1970/72 when the business closed and the shop became the White Goods department of Mercury TV.
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This really is a great pic. So many shops, so much business happening. I love the horse and cart. Which makes me think about logistics (I love those nerdy factory programmes on the TV) - how did they stock the shops? I assume they were bringing things in by railway to the station and then the ‘last mile’ is by horse and cart? How did the fishmonger get fresh fish?
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Probably from Billingsgate Fish Market. I walked through it about 60 years ago. The porters were unloading fish from ships moored on the Thames.
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Right. But - did they get the train to Billingsgate at 3am - or was there a distributor who sent fish by rail to Forest Hill and all down the line. I’m genuinely fascinated by old school logistics. No phones, it’s all pre-planned. Who picked it up off the train, or did they horse and cart to the market and back?
Great pic. I wonder why Waldram Park Road / Park Road had “park” in the name. Was there a park nearby?
This 1872 map shows Park Road (now Waldram Park Road) leading to Park Road Terrace, then Brockley Lane and Stanstead Road as we progress around the current South Circular. At the east end of Park Road there is a park- can’t quite make it out, but maybe it says Telegraph Park - behind where the Railway Telegraph is?
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An interesting piece by Steve Grindlay on the Railway Telegraph’s website:
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Trains got goods and fresh produce from remote locations to London’s massive markets. There were horses and carts everywhere around the markets though if you got out to the suburbs it would be quiet. Plenty of space once you’d cleared London Bridge and Southwark. Pics like this one ( from The Queen’s London, 1896) show commercial traffic in huge volumes. Forest Hill only about an hour away. Share regular delivery runs with other traders in your area?
Also, salesmen would call to promote and take your orders, eg for that very smart cycling attire mentioned above. Then the manufacturer/ wholesaler could organise local delivery to your shop.
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No doubt bicycles made a large portion of those deliveries. I’d love to see more of these in use in the area. I think Aga’s and Beetroot and Beans have used them.
Love those old pics Tim 
A friend of mine who knows his railways also sent me this:
On logistics and distribution using rail.
Fresh fish and milk were daily features on station drop-offs.
I am pretty sure that in the pix of bomb damage to Forest Hill station I recall seeing milk cans sitting on the platform even then.
Station staff knew what to expect to arrive and returned empties to a schedule.
In Scotland as a child I recall going on hols to a fishing port in NE Scotland.
Extended family members would give my dad half-a-crown which would cover the cost of purchasing a box of kippers plus delivery by rail to our home town station for pick-up within a day or so.
Nary a phone-call or website involved.
I noticed a very stylish cyclist in this pic from the thread above- probably just picked up some Aertex kit from FW Allen and now on her way to Finch’s?
Some years back, when we were filming in Northumberland, a friend and colleague posted some Crasker kippers to our unit manager back in London. They left Crasker but never reached him. So if anyone in those sprauncy new flats at TV Centre notices a strange smell …
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