Wouldn’t the deterrent be more effective generally if it was not advertised though? People would think that signs may result in camera enforcement and be deterred from not following the signs.
Ticket inspectors don’t advertise their presence with helpful signs such as ‘On Thursday evenings ticket inspectors will present at this station’
Edit - perhaps Lewisham could just put a load of signs up saying ‘we are installing new enforcement cameras around the borough and this might be one of the places. Please don’t get fined’. Sounds cheap too.
No Entry + Camera Sign + Sign saying cameras are now active + Camera
That’s kind of how the speed cameras work too - only some of them are active, although you can get phone apps (I noticed while installing the app mentioned above) that tell you which ones are active.
Speaking of the app, it installed just fine for me. Will be out when it’s not arctic giving it a go
I think the
4th evolution is Road Closure,
you have sufficiently reduced traffic that the cost of a camera and the lack of revenue means it is probably cheaper to just close that entry point.
Yup, it’s simplified but similar to how the self driving stuff in things like Teslas works when checking for other moving cars except it’s doing the processing in the cloud instead of locally. It’s still expensive to process so they have a ‘freemium’ model - someone has to pay for the cloud compute costs after all. I might check out the pro version just to see how that works. Which means there’s a deterrent. Is he standing behind the hedge?
It’s effectively using image processing to analyse the movement between 2 different frames - I did it the old fashioned way at the top of the thread here a couple of years ago:
I live nearby. Considering its a residential, 20mph zone, cars travel down Waldenshaw at such a high speed and it scares me. Great to see someone taking a positive step in prevention. All for it!
Surprising really as it’s been pioneered on the forum here for a while!
We did get speeding prioritised as one of the ‘top 3’ things to watch under the heading of road crime by the local FH ward police, although I missed the last meeting so I didn’t get an update. I will see if I can check and find out what happened - they were actually going to deploy some officers with radar guns after I sent them data from my camera. A fairly even split with cars >30km/h. Data does help.
Interesting to see the use of the word crime now being adopted for what was previously labelled traffic offences and still is by the CPS. The Met’s take on this is that there is a link in criminality between dangerous drivers and criminal activity which led them to setting up their Road Crime unit during lockdown.
It does seem to be sending out a mixed message of it being a crime if speeding drivers only get a letter through the post saying please don’t speed again if caught by the Community Road Watch team.
Am I alone in being utterly appalled that in the UK people are now being encouraged to spy on and report their fellow citizens for any infringement that takes their fancy?
We’ve had hotlines for breaching Covid regulations, dashcam footage and apps for traffic offences; where next? Recording conversations in the pub for opinions that disagree with the latest dogma.
If you saw a stranger break a neighbour’s window to gain entry would you not call the police? Or if you saw a shopper sneak a display item into their bag, would you not alert the store staff? Or if you overheard a huddled group discuss how to deploy a car bomb, would you not call a hotline?
We live in a civil society and we all have a collective responsibility to help uphold the laws which keep us civil and safe.
https://www.police.uk/pu/contact-the-police/ - seems fairly straight forward to me. If someone witnessed someone else breaking into your home presumably you’d want them to call the police?
There is a great deal of difference between reporting a crime that you happen to witness by chance and deliberately seeking out and reporting infringements.
The logical next step after taking on and reporting the menace of speeding motorists is the formation of a Forest Hill chapter of the Guardian Angels.
Are there any local stockists of berets and shiny red bomber jackets?
If anybody knows who or what was the noise on the south circular at 2am please inform the police. For anybody that missed it, it sounded more like an air raid warning than an engine but was probably a motorbrike.
I almost headed to the nearest Anderson shelter.
Isn’t there a level of common sense? There are certain roads in FH that have a speed limit of 20, but were built for 40.
Spying on people in these roads is just rude.
Then you have roads like Devonshire road which really should be 10 for the most part, but you can’t report constant dangerous driving because it is subjective and would require a level of intelligence that isn’t required from an app
