I could work if the one-way system next to Sainsbury’s was reversed, so lorries take the second left into Sainsbury’s not the first. There may also have to be some different parking restrictions on the bottom of Manor Mount to allow sufficient turning space.
I’ve noticed a lot of screeching round the local roads at night recently (probably to avoid the speed camera on Brockley Rise). I’ve just heard someone screeching round the block now (and do an emergency stop) - I hope no one was hit. Short of road humping every road is there anything the council could do to avoid people speeding round residential roads to avoid speed cameras - it’s so antisocial and dangerous.
Employing police is the usual answer. Speed cameras are a blessing and a curse (like the silly one on Sydenham Hill).
I’m not sure the council can do anything about speeding - but they can for certain other infractions (illegal right turn, wrong way up a road etc)
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Having road humps doesn’t even work! There are road humps on Sunderland Road and the speed of drivers is crazy. Anyone sticking to the 20mph speed limit is usually overtaken!
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True that.
Some good info shared on twitter about the Met’s enforcement action on speeding recently.
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His last sentence is beautifully ambiguous.
@Beige Which part? The bad table, the final sentence saying we need to stop caring about safety or the sign which says the pedestrian is responsible for cars speeding?
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I would have thought that the consequences of “putting safety first and recognising speeding” would have been less devestation.
Hmmm. Think you’re misattributing a quote to me which belongs to the man from the Met. Definitely clumsily-phrased but the meaning is surely clear.
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Sorry, I realise it wasn’t you. I just highlighted and clicked ‘quote’. I have fixed.
Sorry to derail conversation - the content of his message was indeed interesting. I wonder what is going on here.
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From listening to the traffic near me at night, it very much sounds as though no drivers are doing 20 mph. During lockdown there was a much lower volume of traffic so it wasn’t as noticeable and although I’ve always though the traffic speeds generally on Perry vale/rise are well over the 20 mph limit, it seems particularly bad now that lockdown is lifting. If a cyclist, pedestrian or another car got in the way I don’t think it would be pretty. Of course there has never been any enforcement on perry vale so no incentive for anyone to stick to the limit even in normal times, of the idea of promoting safety doesn’t matter to them.
The zone highs are shocking, and I guess that’s the point of Andy Cox’s post. But it doesn’t tell us much about the average speeding in each zone. For example, all those ‘highs’ could be attributed to one high speed car chase.
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Are you aware of any car racing happening on Perry Vale in the very early hours of the morning? I’m on Sunderland Road and several times over the last few weeks when I’ve been up late and have had windows open I’ve heard “souped up” cars going at what sounds like very high speeds constantly for an hour or so. Although I’m closer to the South Circular than Perry Vale the sound appears to be coming from the Perry Vale direction.
Maybe - it sounds more like individual
Cars rather the multiple cars together but could be some kind of racing
There is a local vehicle which seems to have had its muffler removed, and the owner drives around the area a lot, often in the small hours.
I was out for a walk yesterday evening … around 9 PM and there were two cars racing down Honor Oak Park, past One Tree Hill towards the station … approx 50 MPH. Two Golfs; one black, one white.
If you see racing or other forms of dangerous driving, it’s possible to submit video evidence to the police:
https://www.met.police.uk/ro/report/rti/rti-a/report-a-road-traffic-incident/
Note the video must cover two mins before and after the event:
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Quoting your quote…
That precludes you from having a private speed camera of any kind on your street (similar to my photographic experiment above) - you’d literally have to follow someone for almost 5 minutes to submit any kind of evidence.
There are plenty of successful ‘bikecammer’ videos that lead to prosecution - e.g. close passes, that seem to be exempt from that +/- 2min rule though.
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Why would you have to follow them? Wouldn’t 2 mins of empty street leading up to the incident followed by 2 mins of empty street qualify?
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There’s a guy who owns a silver/white golf on Devonshire Road (if it’s the same person). He woke me up at 2AM this morning with that dam exhaust of his, to say nothing of how fast he drives down Devonshire Road. We have major water and footpath works going on at the moment but this does not seem to stop him from driving like a loon.
This is not an isolated case, he drives this way every time he leaves the flat
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