Hi Mark, Perhaps it would help resolve any ambiguity about your prior complaint to Leo if you were to use your full name here on the forum, and maybe add a profile photo so @LeoGibbons (who is using his full name here) is able to identify who he’s talking to?
I suspect your original post was flagged as it came from a new member and was one-on-one confrontational. That kind of post doesn’t go down too well on this forum, which is designed for general public interest.
Note that councillors like @LeoGibbons and @SophieDavis are under no obligation to use this forum. They do so because they care on a personal level about reaching out to the local community. I’m sure they’re interested in hearing both positive and negative opinions on council matters, but one-on-one interpersonal matters should be discussed with them on private channels IMO.
That very helpful, thanks Chris, I’ll work out how to get a profile on.
As I think I said somewhere above, I really am sorry that I may have caused offence, and will happily amend the original post when I know what’s wrong with it. But I am saddened the Leo tells me I am making “false accusations”; that really not the case, and I wish he had not said it.
Leo, lets sort it out in private as Chris suggests.
Thank you, it’s great to see this, it’s really helpful. In fact, this sort of action is I’m told one of the key elements of good practice that can really make a difference. I look forward to hearing how it is going to work.
This seems to be an ongoing problem with The Hill pub.
I was woken up on Saturday night due to screaming and shouting (also Friday night/Saturday morning by a large group of males and a motorbike). It turns out that someone had been assaulted by another reveller. Fortunately the police quickly turned up (but it is a waste of their time if it could be avoided).
I have spoken to the landlady (who is perfectly nice and reasonable); she added that due to her license she can’t have any doormen on the premises. I think this is largely the problem - people are free to do and get away with things as they wish. (But she did say she bars people if they repeatedly break her rules (such as by taking glasses outside).)
The situation just feels a bit hopeless. I have raised these concerns with Lewisham Council but I’ll likely be woken up again at the weekend.
OH MY! I have only just looked at this thread, but I am shocked. Very shocked.
I (sians) posted how people could complain about bad parking, supplying email adds of lewisham parking folk & Cllr Gibbons. I added that the Cllr says QUOTE “he only hears from a handful of folk, so it is not an important issue to him unless he hears from more people”. This is what he actually said to me in a personal email of 16/9/19: QUOTE
" If this silent majority who are concerned about the issue of school-run congestion do not complain to either their council or their councillors, how are we supposed to know about it? If only a few of the residents have the motivation to write an email, or phone in a complaint or even phone enforcement officers, we can assume it is probably not a huge issue."
I acknowledge his point.
Cllr Gibbons then replied that my message on SE23 was misleading!!! WHAT??? PLEASE EXPLAIN!!! I FIND IT QUITE OFFENSIVE THAT YOU SAY MY MESSAGE IS MISLEADING. Cllr Gibbons has NOW said that Only 3 residents complained about aggressive confrontations school drop-offs… (not about general complaints)
Cllr Gibbons - you need to think more carefully how you write!
Cllr Gibbons - you later suggest that we should report the matter of illegal parking to the Police. REALLY? Is this really a priority for the police when there are stabbings & shootings going on?
I have just Googled the role of a local Cllr - I think parking problems comes into the Cllr remit, not the police.
I am seriously unimpressed by our local Cllr. His words have been less than diplomatic… His actions … (fill in the space)
That’s not what Cllr Gibbons said. He was talking about verbal abuse and threats. Not illegal parking:
Also, @sians, it’s unfair of you to quote Cllr Gibbons’ private correspondence publicly (I assume without his permission) - especially when the context may differ subtly from what’s currently being discussed on this topic.
HI Chris - do you live near here? Just a thought. Are you personally aware of the issues that affect Thorpewood Ave?
Apart from that, why is it it unfair to of me to quote something from a public servant who has been elected by his local community?
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I presume here you mean’t to say Assembly rather than library.
The perception among the residents is that the main impetus for the working group came from the mayor after he attended the Meet the Mayor Assembly where he was asked some difficult questions about why the council had committed to doing something but did nothing and had made the problem a lot worse. The next Assembly after this announced that the Assembly was sponsoring 2 working groups. It may have been a coincidence or it could be we have a good mayor.
The consultation was held in 2015 which was 4 years ago not a couple of years ago . A lot has happened in those 4 years. We have had improvements to Dartmouth Road which look great most of the time except for those cars parked on pavements but it did remove about 30 car parking spaces which have caused a lot more congestion and moved the parking pressure up Thorpewood.
There is no border on Thorpewood Avenue, cars can move freely up and down and the pressure has increased at the top.
Everybody is entitled to an opinion and your opinion seems to be that the problem is on the lower section. Lewisham recognised this fact in 2015 and it was a valid opinion then and was shared by most people. In 2019, it is different. Most people recognise that car pollution is seriously damaging to people’s health. The people who are most affected by this are the residents, the 100s of children and adults who walk and cycle up the road. Many people see a CPZ as a Controlled Pollution Zone. Many of the people who support the CPZ don’t even have cars, they just want cleaner air. The pollution and parking issue now covers the whole road and opinions have changed which is why the street is now united behind the need for a CPZ. A recent petition/survey of the street showed 90% in favour.
Help us make this a great place for discussion by always working to improve the discussion in some way, however small. If you are not sure your post adds to the conversation, think over what you want to say and try again later.
Thank you Paul, and yes I meant to type Assembly rather than library!
I am aware of your strongly held view that opinion towards a CPZ has markedly shifted on Thorpewood Avenue and I do hope we have another consultation soon. I look forward to the outcome!
It would be useful to have further details about what the Council would consider a ‘serious case’. One of the things I have never been able to discover is how decisions are made in Lewisham regarding traffic management, e.g. why Street A is closed to thru traffic but residents in street B are told nothing can be done On the one hand people who
complain are regarded as a nuisance, but when residents give up complaining because they are ignored, that is taken as evidence that there is no problem.
The French deal with that by letting the air out of the tyres which apparently is not illegal. In the UK I guess it is. Not that I would condone that, I would rather chat to the owner.
Yes. The proud history of local government accountability seems to have passed, despite PR about ‘transparency’. It is no longer possible to look up committee records in the local archive to see when decisions were taken and the reasons given. I can’t remember the year the minutes stop being deposited, but it may coincide with cabinet-style local government with executive rather than honorary mayor.
I’m happy to be corrected - if one of our Councillors wants to divulge an online accessible data centre, that continues where the committee minutes stop, please speak up.
I spoke to the owner of the car who was with her children and advised her that it was illegal to park on the pavement. She then proceeded to tell me that she has parked there every time she picks her kids up and will continue to do so until she is caught by the Parking Wardens.
I advised her that I would be reporting this to the Council and she just replied “Go ahead then, bye bye.”
Hi Bruceshire
The reality is that folk park where they want to & continue to ‘get away’ with it. It is almost as though they think it is their ‘reserved’ personal parking space. Until we get more parking wardens & more fines, this will continue, sadly…
I have now discovered you can call 020 8787 5397 - If they have a parking warden available, they may come. Sadly, by then, the person may have left & will park again there the next day… Maybe if this is a regular occurrence, you should call the number 15 minutes before the driver arrives??? I am so sad & sorry to be so cynical…
