If anyone knows where this one is let me know. I’ve enjoyed photographing the many supportive urban art that is popping up all over the place and am in desperate need of new routes for walks.
Perhaps ask the excellent @Love_SE4 on Twitter?
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Tommy I hope you’re right , Penge and Sydenham seem to more outbreaks popping up . There always seems to be someone making you the bad guy for objecting . I really hate the post-Scarman look - you never see it in places that are well looked after and broadly law-abiding . Wonder why?
Cheers Nigel
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I’m not a fan of any graffiti \ street art in the location on One Tree Hill, I’d be happier if it could all be painted over again which IMO would suite the surroundings much more.
It is at least a positive message, I’ll give the person that.
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I’ve never understood this thing about Tupac. Maybe it’s just me and I’ve missed something, but did he ever even apologise for the sexual abuse he was jailed for and all those violent lyrics? As I said, maybe I’m just not across it all. But whatever the words, whoever is doing it, however skillful or not, I just think it’s wrong to do this graffiti/street art or fart or whatever people choose to call it without permission of the owner or guardian. Taste is subjective and probably the people whose tags were painted over valued their stuff as much as Harky values her stuff.
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I don’t know, her company paid dividends of £28k last year, mainly to her, which isn’t too bad going in itself.
I think Banksy gets away with it because he has a much better sense of location, originality and wit and would be unlikely to daub plagiarised Tupac lyrics at a historic nature spot.
Enjoy your walk later - it’s a lovely day.
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On the contrary, I think you have understood this thing about Tupac all too well marymck.
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My comments there were not specific. But great to hear she makes a living from her art.
Art is subjective and some artists will attract more love than others. Yours is a good example of much public debate on public art often split between “I don’t like that, get rid of it” and “That’s quite good, it should stay.” I’m also minded that true street art (not commissioned) is meant to be transient.
I wouldn’t get too mired down in accusations of plagiarising… even Banksy copies other artists. Though if that was a direct quote it would have been best to attribute it rather than claim “my words”. In that context you are right, though I think I know what she meant.
No, I think it’s plagiarism without due credit or improvement.
“Go a little bit out of your depth. And when you don’t feel that your feet are quite touching the bottom, you’re just” / “about in the right place to do something exciting.”, which is credited to Harkiran in the first pictures, is a Bowie quote for example.
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I don’t know what I find more depressing about graffiti: the lack of respect for place or the lack of imagination and originality.
These aren’t Banksy. They predate Banksy. They’re Blek le Rat. He in turn was “inspired” by spray painting vandals who made such a horror of the 1970s New York subways. Le Rat went on to spray paint his derivative “art” on the fabric of UNESCO World Heritage Site Volubilis. There’s not a lot of respect or the sense of feeling for place that I would have hoped for in an “artist” in some of these people.
It all seems to be about who is more clever at monetising. It’s way beyond making a living. I find it really sad.
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You’re getting close to presenting an art history. Blek le Rat has been Banksy’s inspiration and is often acknowledged when he is interviewed.
With respect to all, surely this discussion of art versus graffiti and Banksy versus Micky Mouse or whoever he is called, is what makes the application of paint without permission so wrong .
If someone is play deafening music next door it matters little whether it’s Bartok. (it never is ) or Bieber M - fact is nobody chose to experience it , just the person who’s playing it, or this case. spraying it . I don’t see how this risk goes away if we simply allow anyone with the means and motivation to just do it . Our strategy seems to be " I hope too many people don’t do it ".
I’m sorry if that’s “running your mouth on peoples feeds” .
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I’m reminded of the battle between Mobstr and Tower Hamlets council up on Fish Island:
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Ha. I remember that. I wonder if that precipitated the council’s policy change on street art last year.
(Yes I could tweet them and ask)
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Haha is that real? TH council will now be determining what’s art? Banter.
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I guess Tower Hamlets, like Lewisham, have a surplus of cash so spending money on pressure washing brickwork , painting it red several times, plus cost of materials and labour is good way to eliminate those unwanted resources . Otherwise they would waste it on nonsense like social care , youth services, cycling and safer streets .
The idea is even more ludicrous than TH council ruling on what is art (in fact anyone ruling on what is art) .
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By the looks of him, Mayor Biggs knows a thing or two about art so the council tax payers of TH are in good hands. However, he needs to be careful of that nice suit when wielding the big roller with the black paint.
The answer is to report graffiti on fix my street. Hopefully when things are back working it will be removed.
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Yay!! Green like the scenery. It would be nice to see old time pics of this area randomly placed if not all is good still. The signs that are placed about also get messed up by so and so’s which annoys me and others. Tag your walls at home if your bored. Some people just have no class. Though I am all for spreading positivity sometimes you just have to respect not every place is of choice to project that.
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