I think that Honor Oak is well served for eating but agree with you re the shops. We also visit Jones more often than the deli. Having said that, last time I was in the deli they did have some really nice tomatoes which was a step in the right direction.
Your wish may well be granted soon re cafe/wine bar.
Sounds exciting. I thought the wine bar had been rejected!
Different site!
Speaking of Honor Oak, does anyone know what the KTK Off Licence unit next to Donde is going to be? Currently going through what looks like a fairly extensive refit. It used to be pretty basic corner shop but presume someone’s paying to redevelop into something else.
That’s great that there’s talk of a new bar opening in HOP. We were very devastated to have been rejected as HOP has some lovely places to eat out but very limited choice in terms of just going for a few drinks. We will definitely try it when it opens and wish them all the best, I’m sure it will be a great success in a great area 
That is 41 HOP: Cafe by day, wine bar at night is my understanding of the plan. Let’s see.
Oh i see, good stuff. I thought that was a different project on Brockley Rise but either way good to have new stuff opening nearby 
To clarify, 41 Brockley Rise is open for business.
Not sure anyone knows what former KTK will be (next to Neroli) but rumours are a caff, and wine bar in place of current Honor Oak Supermarket was rejected.
The Provender has some fruit and veg but given it’s not its main business you can’t really rely on it when in search for fruit and veg.
I don’t think it is new, just a refit. Looks good.
New thing next to Neroli looking at an interesting stage. Think it’s rumoured to be a cafe. But old shop sign now revealed from presumably many years ago.
Passed by today, love the window and the sign! Really excited to see what will open there!
I’m wondering if that’s an old sign, uncovered, or the new one. If it’s the new one then I guess it will be a ‘grocery’. A craft beer grocery???
Grounds and Grapes is a great start - but agree we need a quality reliable greengrocer (and a bakery!).
A greengrocer would be great, as would a butchers and/or bakers.
Like the sound of a new cafe… Hopscotch is a bit of a half-arsed place, took us nearly an hour to be served two paninis the other day!
I’d like a sushi place, but that might be madness.
Something Asian would be nice though. I live Sushi but would also love a nice affordable eat in Thai place. Or vietnamese.
Tep, Vietnamese would be great! A mini Cafe East would go down very well with my wife.
Mo Pho in Brockley isn’t too far of a shlep!
You’re right there! We tried it a couple of weeks ago. The spring rolls were excellent but the rest of it was a little so-so.
