Cheers Chris - have a lovely weekend.
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Totally understand your thoughts, but, for me at least, it didn’t come off that way.
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Good questions, but I am not sure who could answer them. These are questions that should be asked by our elected representatives. My suspicion is that what happened would not have happened in some other areas e.g. Hyde Park, because there would be a substantial police presence.
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I always thought the onus for appropriate and robust security would be on the fun fair organiser, not on the local constabulary. If the local PCs need to police these closed, fee-based events then perhaps those type of events should be reconsidered.
I am so sorry to hear of your horrible experience.
As and adult attending these fun fairs I’ve never felt fully safe so now avoid them.
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Yes, and I presume security arrangements must be part of the application for a licence to host the fun fair on the public grounds, and so should also have been reviewed and approved by the local council in advance.
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So sorry this has happened. The park is in my ‘patch’ - please can you email me: Angela.wilkins@bromley.gov.uk ?
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Hi Angela,
Hope your well.
Thanks for your response.
I actually emailed you this morning - with all of the above details plus more information surrounding the incidents and what transpired, I also emailed the SNT, Kathy Bance and the friends of Crystal Palace Park.
I got a response from CCP - they have passed the details into IDVerde whom manage the events there , so hopefully they can look into it.
I will re send the email now for you.
Have a nice weekend.
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Hi Devonish,
In all fairness within 12 hours I have had a response from the friends of Crystal Palace Park and the local MP Angela Wilkins , all willing to look into this. That builds the faith back up a little.
Although not Hyde park , I have always considered myself quite lucky to be so close to Crystal Palace , (along with Hornimans, wells park etc), these are parks that I consider to be London treasures !
Wish the morons with ill intent at these events would picture it the same way and leave well alone !
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Hey Starman,
All very good points, thanks.
Dough ( you see what I did there) in fairness as an Adult I’m just there for the doughnuts 
, was the risk worth reward , perhaps not …
I think that new Airthrills place in Catford might be more in our lane for future rainy days!
Hi ForestHull,
It’s a tricky one because initially the youths were on the outside of the grounds causing havoc and continued to do so after at the bus stops and side streets etc , would it be fair to hold them accountable for outside of the event ?
That’s where I think outside overstretched resources come into place such as the police force sadly enough.
I’m glad to hear Sainsbury’s and the likes will not be selling fireworks this year , I wish corner shops and the likes were held to such high standards. Maybe this would help. Again it’s something that inconveniences those who will use them responsibly but would maybe be a deterrent.
But absolutely more should have been put in place by the organisers to ensure public safety - the one entrance/ exit thing almost made us sitting ducks !
Anyway, today’s a new day and we will muster on making new memories and turn this horror story into an adventure for the little guy to return to school with …
The day he and his friends survived the funfair flares !
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Many thanks - Apols re email but I was at work and can’t access council emails from there.
I did send the post to Officers though and they are contacting IDVerde urgently.
Will respond to email later.
Many thanks
Angela
I’ve just teasing your post with horror! I thought I was reading about a horror film you had seen recently.
As a family we used to go to Crystal Palace on the 5th Nov for the fair & see the fireworks & we never saw any trouble.
I hope you & the children are feeling less traumatised & you get some serious answers. Those idiots need to be in court ASAP & locked up, along with big fines to pay for the damage they caused. Their parents should be thoroughly ashamed of them.
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Hear, hear!
(I’ve turned into Victor Meldrew!)
I can’t agree with these sentiments… can’t we just do them properly? This would be the few ruining it for the many.
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It looks like the fireworks have been cancelled… am I the last to know this? Any link to this?
You’re right.
It was an angry knee-jerk reaction.
It guess this could have been a one-off steaming incident which would be pretty impossible to police.
The brazen lawlessness of some youngsters today is a real worry for me though.
Oh yeh, and how much of a rip-off are these Fun Fairs now!
(But I’m still a cross between Victor Meldrew and Rupert Rigsby)
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I don’t think it’s that tricky, the laws on sale and use of fireworks are quite clear:
And specifically:
The law says you must not set off or throw fireworks (including sparklers) in the street or other public places.
Venue security as well as members of the public should have been able to call on the police to check on the troublemakers.
Sadly you are probably right. I think it’s only when calling on the emergency services that people will suddenly realise how bad things have got.
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Sometimes I appreciate some countries that set rules in place and make sure it is actioned. At least you can still enjoy without such negative issues occurring like that!!
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