This is great news! This is exactly what is needed in HOP!
Anymore news on the opening?!? There hasnt been any activity again for a few weeks!. Desperate to see this open!
Perhaps a second question mark needs to be added to the title…!
I think it is the “soon” part that has lost it resonance.
I should say, despite my pessimism, I would really like to see this place open its doors and become successful, but I am left feeling very exasperated with certain parts of the Honor Oak parade. It has some decent established businesses but there must be demand for others, it just never seems to quite get there. Such a shame.
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I get what you are saying Jerry but would like to point out that though the changes seem glacial they are huge over time. It is hardly recognisable from 10 years ago, in mostly a good way IMO.
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Agreed, Brett. But you only need to look to Crofton Park to see how an area can vastly improve in a small space of time.
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We need more places for 20 somethings in HOP, like in Brockley or New Cross. Too many places are just full of babies and prams. A wine bar would be a good start!
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Nah, we’ll all be in the wine bar too, sorry 
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Looks like their Facebook page was updated with a photo on the 6th of June:
Does anyone atall know what’s going on with Grounds and Grapes?! It’s been over a year now since it was first reported it was going to open. Work has halted again. No activity for the last month or 2. So frustrating!
I emailed them about a month ago to ask but haven’t received a response 
I popped in to have a chat with the builder on Saturday.
This place is being fitted to a very high standard so I’m sure, whenever it opens, that all this waiting will have been worth it.
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I peered in yesterday, too - looking great!
Did you ask when they would be open?
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The builder said he didn’t know when they’d be opening - but maybe he was just being discreet.
He was doing a fine job though!
It looks very nice in there if you peep through the windows on your way down the high street
Any updates on this venue? The bursts of activity suggest owners are having cash flow problems? Or is it a planning permission thing?
Nothing to do with planning permission; and the owners aren’t skint by any measure!
They’re just doing their own place with their own money in their own good time.
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‘In their own good time’ is about right. I’m sure it’ll be worth the wait.
Considering this has looked the same for over a year now do we assume this isn’t going to open?
What’s the score with shops that are bought on the high street and remain empty - do the council intervene at any point? It’s such a waste of a premium spot on the road and just looks rubbish to leave like it is.
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