Graffiti on our lovely HOP street art (“Love Them, Tell Them”)

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#8

Just to say I have reported this via FixMyStreet.

I was with a group of primary school children this morning when we spotted this, and they were so upset to see it. I think it means a lot to many people.

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#9

Tagging is crap. There’s no justification for it. No philosophical conundrum here.

“Love Them, Tell Them” was an uplifting, beautifully executed message that appealed to all.

The tag is just mindless vanity crap and deserves our universal condemnation.

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#10

Tagging for tagging’s sake, art for art’s sake. (with apologies to 10cc).

Tagging is one thing but tagging over something as worthy as that sign is just the sign of an immature mind.

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#11

I don’t think we’re in disagreement here.

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#12

That’s twice in a day and it’s still early. :slight_smile:

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#13

This is being discussed over on the SE23 Mums Facebook group too. Someone has a photo of three men tagging the mural. Apparently several people shouted at them from their cars but they just shouted abuse back and kept going. :frowning_face:

#14

Please post those pics here if you can.

#15

@anon5422159 They haven’t shared the photo on Facebook. I’m not sure what posting the pic online would achieve… Probably better if they choose to report it formally.

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#16

Someone here may recognise them, and thus may make it an easier case for the authorities to investigate.

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#17

OK, if they share any pics I’ll let you know and perhaps you can get in touch with them to discuss. The idea of publishing an image like that online makes me feel a little nervous!

I’ve also shared this with the Brockley Street Art team and Naomi Edmondson (the artist) on Twitter. Fingers crossed there’s something positive they can do.

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#18

These are not nice people and publication of people in a public place online is not illegal. Lets not worry about upsetting them, lets find out who they are and show them up for what they are, vandals.

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#19

There is a lively discussion about it on the I love SE4 facebook page. Also is it anything to do with the council? Is it not someones fence?

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#20

@anon94852771 I’ve just been reading the I Love SE4 thread. Interesting discussion - and it definitely relates to the points raised by @starman earlier on here.

The idea of the Brockley Street Art team engaging with local tagging crews so they and the more commercial street artists can co-exist peacefully, allowing space for each other’s work, sounded very positive. Shame they didn’t get any uptake.

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#21

I dislike street painting and tagging. Some people think the original painting is art; the guy doing the tagging thinks his is art. Both are entitled to their opinion, as am I. I think any street painting is an eyesore. Forest Hill is blighted by tacky paintings, especially the one by the Sylvaner Post. Makes the place look like a ghetto.

#22

@InTheNightGarden the key differences being:

  • “Love Them, Tell Them” was commissioned and had permission from the land owner (as do all festival street art pieces).
  • The tag is wilful destruction of someone else’s art.
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#23

Hopefully the artist will have used graffiti protective lacquer as if so, it should be relatively easy to remove the “tag”.

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#24

I am probably nitpicking - but I couldn’t get past the referral to tagging as “work”. Perhaps replacing the two middle letters of that word with “an” would be more accurate.

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#25

Have you a link to this thread?

#26

It may not work for those who aren’t FB members, and who aren’t members of the “I love SE4” group

#27

Thanks. Beyond the rightful indignation on this matter, there is a really interesting conversation developing there on the transience of street art and the clash between commissioned works versus more traditionally unsanctioned (guerrilla) works. As well as some good commentary on the linkages between tagging and street art today.

I’ve asked to join the group.

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