Yes well seeing as they had previously wanted to open a delivery hub and there is a lovely wide pavement there to use as a scooter park, this could still be their focus.
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My concerns would be the same as before when Dominos applied for planning at the Old Bank Site. Thankfully they didn’t get approval then and we have Mamma Dough a nice restaurant which is fitting for that site. The issue with motorbikes however at this new proposed site will be exactly the same. The streets off Honor Oak Park are closed off to through traffic. Gabriel Street (at the junction with Stondon Park) Grierson and Bovill off Gabriel Street and Grierson Road on the North side. The mopeds will use all these streets as rat runs. It already happens with Deliveroo drivers and has becoming more of a problem. One of their drivers being reported to the police recently. I will be objecting on this basis.
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And to be honest, all Devonshire Road needs is another bunch of delivery mopeds darting up and down an already noisy street. Some people must really love pizza…
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Or some people quite like pizza and there are lots of people.
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We don’t need another pizza takeaway. Delivery mopeds are often a real hazard to pedestrians on the pavement and cyclists and drivers on the road.
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Perhaps rules could be imposed to make all deliveries from Dominos in Honor Oak Park Electric Bikes only:
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Hi @anon5422159
It looks like the address in Crofton Park ward.
Any planning application with 3 or more objections (or referral from a councillor) and the application will be heard by a planning committee. The reasons to object have to be planning ones as the others will not be taken into the account.
As I said before, planning is not quite local democracy in action. Couple of months ago we had a petition against a proposal, and one for the proposal. Over 1600 people put their name on one of those. Roughly half of the people were happy with our decision and the other half were not. It was always going to be the case that a half would not be happy. We decided on the planning issues.
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Gutted to hear the fish 'n chip shop is going…they were one of the few places I could ask “please can you take the skin off the cod before you batter…the thought of it’s grey epidermis is deeply unplez”… and they did. Hate the thought of another fat cat company paying their staff minimum wage on zero hours arriving.
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Im surprised another Estate Agents hasn’t applied, or better still a betting shop. They seem to spread like wildfire as well. It is sad that the chip shop is going. Does anyone know why? Has he just had enough or have the rent/rates finally got too high.
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So I don’t understand these things - can we object on the grounds it was refused before?
I don’t want any more mopeds speeding up and down our roads causing danger.
It will also impact on anyone wanting to sit and enjoy food and drink outside Mama Dough, Hattush and Two Spoons surely?
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Presumably the advantage of the fish & chip shop site (over Mamma Dough’s premises) is that Domino’s can reasonably claim that the scooters will be able to stop on the road.
Whether they actually do this or not is another question.
Does anyone know how to go about rejecting? Conscious that the planning documents appeared to be published mid-October, so time could be running out (if it is not already too late)
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Just out of interest, why does Dominos warrant so much scorn compared to Mamma Dough or Express Pizza?
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Mamma Dough and Express Pizza are local businesses who serve the local area and also happen to have a takeaway option available. Dominos are a pizza delivery operation who tag on a small shopfront and so have a much wider scope. They have tried before to site a delivery hub in Honor Oak (2011?) but the application was refused partly because of the noise and disturbance this would make. I think that objection is still valid but I do like @Michael’s suggestion that, if approved, there should be an electric bike condition. I would like to think any new delivery focussed business should have that condition too.
@HOPcrossbun: to object email planning@lewisham.gov.uk and quote the reference DC/17/104077.
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I’ve just written to Lewisham Planning dept. After the protests back in 2011/2012 I can’t believe Domino’s are trying again!
Aside from the obvious concerns about mopeds all over the place and the noise and road chaos that will bring, surely the last thing we need in HOP is another pizza joint. We’ve got three already, plus Deliveroo. Sigh.
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I have written too
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What was the final decision to stop Morrisons on the Forest Hill high street? Was it because of truck delivery issues? Or waste disposal? I know a lot of arguments come out about not wanting a less desirable shop, but I’d say those are irrelevant. It’s better to go after them on parking / waste disposal concerns.
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I objected on grounds of
- moped noise in vicinity of shop affecting businesses, customers as businesses and residents
- moped traffic / noise affecting residents of surrounding streets which are currently closed to cars
- there already being 3 pizza takeaway providers within a very small space, 2 almost adjacent
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I listed pretty much the same three points. Let’s hope they take some notice.
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I’ll send an objection tomorrow too. If anyone else wants to, these are grounds to base your objection on & how to do it:
Worth a tweet / instagram / FB post to Dominos to let them know there’s some here who don’t want them having a shop on our high street…?!
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