Phew, thanks for seeing it in the light in which it was intended.
Indeed it is good to thrash things out a bit to understand each others perspectives on such an emotive matter. 
I am staying away from this thread but amazed how much power some participants have attempting to save the pile of scrap metal. Lewisham Council is planning to destroy our local green space with old trees and protective species living on it, which also local residents and neighbours use. If the Council makes a decision to keep the gas holder because of the birds or thier historic significance, somebody from the Council will be taken to court personally if they go ahead with the buildings on our estate.( It is not a joke, our neighbours already have a lawyer in mind for this purposes.) I honestly can not believe my eyes what I am reading in this thread.
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No, you’re not.
One of the suggestions (perhaps not wholly serious) made at the SydSoc AGM yesterday evening was that on the day of the proposed demolition we should form a human chain round the gasholders to stop the bulldozers or whatever moving in.
Kat, this thread demonstrates the ridiculous state of Lewishsms planning policy. They shun possible investment and employment opportunities, msintain sn old school site that is slowly deteriorating and abuse their powers where they feel they can bully or bribe.
If the effort to maintain wildlife, reduce traffic nuisance and maintain a decent environment were applied to the Bampton estate there would be no building plans. Perhaps the gas holders could be moved onto the green space to preserve both them and the environment as a wildlife haven?
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at the other end of Bellingham Ward is Beckenham Place Park - there’s issues there with trees being removed, and wildlife etc. I hope you’re all as up in arms about that too!
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Much talk about it previously here Jon.
Like many other things, there are reasonable factors to consider. That said, reasonable is open to interpretation, as it is on this thread also.
I have not visited the park this year, but will be interested to see how it has changed. What has been felled, and to what effect.
I have seen a number of tweets about it over the winter, and see there is a lot of unhappiness about it. I guess the end result is where these decisions can finally be judged on their merits.
Much the same here with the gas holders.
Fantastic news for the campaigners. Will be interesting to see the next move from all parties.
Or maybe a case of over confidence? Tis strange indeed, but a delay, if nothing else, is just what campaigners need to unite, and make a proposal, hopefully with some backing.
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This looks to be good news. (from the gasholders point of view)
I do think there needs to be a proposed basic plan for reuse/repurpose from supporters of the gasholders, I realise this has been raised before. But now the axe has been held off. (for the time being) This is the time to be creative and suggest something that will that will win the hearts and minds of the wider community. This may also give SGN and the council something to work with if a decision is to be made to keep them.
I feel that generally, people think that gasholders are dirty and unusable, therefore coming automatically to the decision that they should go to clean the area up. If a alternative is presented, then more support would be forthcoming.
Time to start working on a suggestion.
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I wont hold my breath! Sounds like blue sky thinking, however, I think if they dont get demolished this post will repeat itself for as many years as it takes for them to rust away.
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The site on which the gas holders are located is redundant. They appear to me to be partially accessible. It is not clear whether there is on-site supervision or a security presence.
The Livesey Hall however has a full-time business in operation and whilst there may be issues around rubbish on pavement and roadways after large scale events held in the hall, until now no-one has raised any issues over whether the Hall is in good hands.
Do you have any insight as to who actually owns the Livesey Hall and is it possible SGN do not own it ?
You are right.
And I don’t either
And this question posed by you is very pertinent too.
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I have done a Land Registry map search There are two plots of land. presumably different owners.
MapSearch-20180420-130249.pdf (864.8 KB)
MapSearch-20180420-130240.pdf (911.7 KB)
Very interesting Jon.
Even more interesting that the site behind Livesey Hall has the title “ELECTRICITY SUBSTATION ON THE EAST OF PERRY HILL, LONDON”.
So that settles it, HM Land Registry cannot possibly be wrong - they are not gas holders after all.
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that would be the very small green rectangle next to the road, marked as something like Elec Sub Sta - that map has two green polygons.
Yup - that will do it.
I almost missed the tiny green rectangle on HM Registry Map.
I believe SGN have also failed to provide evidence that they have a big enough spanner.
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Interesting point.
But it’s just a pile of redundant meccano kit - surely a bog standard spanner will do.
While reading up on something else today I stumbled across this piece on the King’s Cross Gasholder project.
Stunning work, but total cost Inc all the other buildings and works on the project was £3bn
Apartments selling FROM £810k and topping out at £5m
Interesting insight all the same,
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Here’s a real nugget from the article:
“The cylinder shape does not lend itself happily to the creation of useful apartments. They’re shaped like slices of pie.”
