A better welcome to those passing through SE23

I far prefer Lionel’s designs to the others suggested. If you’re driving, clean strong graphics are far better, and it would be nice to have a cohesive approach with our neighbours.

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I feel today is a good day for a poll:

What would you like to see done to the wall under the railway bridge across the south circular in Forest Hill?

  • A Mural - Nice big sign like the other areas
  • A Mural - but something different for Forest Hill
  • Leave it as it is

0 voters

Once we have something close to a consensus we can work out the funding options.

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I’m confused. Are we talking about something in the (pedestrian) underpass or something which passing motorists can see? If the latter, where would it be?

Under the railway bridge near the CoOp Robin.

We’re just waiting to see what everyone else does so Forest Hill will be the best one :wink:

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Sorry, Michael’s reference to ‘the Underpass’ misled me.

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I took underpass to mean the pedestrian tunnel.

Really sorry. I changed the reference to underpass. I was distracted by trying to do some work at the same time (really it does happen sometime). Do we need to restart the poll?

New thread I think would be best, but that’s just my opinion, don’t know what others think.

Unless anyone objects, I’d just leave it. I suspect most people would make the same choice whether the underpass or other area.

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I think I changed my vote just by clicking the different radio button.

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So do we start to work on funding options for this now & possibly put in an assembly funding application :slight_smile:

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Shall we apply for £2500 Assembly Funding from Perry Vale Ward, application deadline is Friday 15th September - we need to decide which group/organisations we apply via for the signage :slight_smile:

"Perry Vale Assembly Fund is open
Bids are invited to Perry Vale Assembly Fund for projects that meet Perry Vale Assembly Priorities
and benefit people who LIVE, WORK OR STUDY in the ward.

You may apply for up to £2,500 and the deadline to apply is 5 pm on Friday 15th September.

Please be aware that funds are intended to support primarily community led, innovative small projects that would find it difficult to obtain funding elsewhere. Existing or repeat projects that have received funding in previous years from the Assembly are encouraged to look elsewhere.

The 2017/18 Priorities are:

Children and young people.
Unemployment and skills development.
Older people and intergenerational.
Crime and antisocial behaviour.
Environment and ecology.

In addition to meeting the priorities, applications will be assessed on whether:
they offer direct benefit to people who live, work or study in the ward
there is evidence of need for the project, and whether a similar resource exists in the ward
they are value for money
they are sustainable once assembly funding stops
alternative funding has been explored and is available.

Please find full details on the Perry Vale Assembly page of LB Lewisham’s website – at the link below:

Perry Vale Assembly Fund

If you have any questions on the Assembly Fund after reading through the application form, please feel free to contact me by reply email or on 020 8314 3830."

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Sad to report that the one in Brockley has already been graffitied upon.

Can we make a decision on this, so we can get our skates on and apply for assembly funding if required.

It’s much easier to get assembly funding from Perry Vale Ward than FH Ward as less apply.

@Michael just making you aware of this post :slight_smile:

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I think there’s been enough positive comments to say yes definitely apply for assembly funding! I think the location and idea are clear

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Just a personal viewpoint, but if the idea is just to do the standard “Railway sign” mural (the one that’s been done before in a number of neighbouring areas of SE) on the base of the railway bridge I feel like that’s been done before and has the effect of standardising SE23 / Forest Hill rather than doing something unique that helps create our own identity.

I’d like us to be more ambitious and original. I’ve mentioned in earlier posts the Leyton light boxes as examples of something that i think is ambitious and original (I’m not suggesting we copy them, just giving an example of such a project):

I’d love the idea of getting the support of the local council / assembly to cooperate with the owner of the W H Smith building which is at the heart of Forest Hill with good sight lines from London Rd to get an illuminated Forest Hill or SE23 sign on the roof - a 60sec paint job to attempt to illustrate the sort of thing I mean:
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I agree that getting the funding would be a good step - but I’m not sure if the idea needs to be agreed before getting the funding? The best approach would seem to be to invite submissions for a sign/mural that has a specified budget and then put it to a vote.

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When @Michael asked what people want, this was the response:

I interpret the results as 39% of voters supporting the “vintage railway style” mural for Forest Hill:

47

The other 61% want something else (let’s call it “non vintage”) - but do they all want the same “something else”?

By my maths, in order to beat the overall vote for the “vintage” design, 64%+ of “non vintage” voters would have to stand behind a single design (assuming all “vintage” voters stuck with their original choice). How likely are we to get this level of agreement among the “non vintage” voters for a single design, given how individual our tastes are?

In conclusion - I think if we’re to explore other options, we need to set a time limit (say, end of August) to decide, otherwise we risk the project remaining in limbo for another year. That means alternate proposals need to come in within the next couple of weeks, and if they don’t, I think we should run with the “vintage” design.

Hahahaha. We should use this logic for the 2016 EU referendum result.

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You took the words right out of my mouth. The question might be in this case, is no sign better than a bad sign?

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